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I get a lot of searches recently looking for more information on him and his kosherness/validity. Does anyone have more information? PLEASE share in the comments what you know as well as which restaurants he is supervising and I will compile a list of everything and post it soon.
I read here that he allows restaurants to be open on Shabbat which is a no-no for the Frum community. His reasoning is that it gives Jews (non-orthodox, obviously) the choice to eat somewhere that is at least kosher instead of going elsewhere. I can see how this may be a semi-OK excuse for somewhere outside of NY but in NYC there are many kosher and non kosher places and this is a pretty lame excuse.
As far as I can find he is the overseeing Rabbi at
- Little Lads
- Chickpea (6th Ave & 14th Street locations)
Like I said please drop me a line in the comments and let me know what you know so we can get to the bottom of this!
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Chickpea’s ingredients may be Kosher, but the establishment is open on Shabbat and there is NO Mashgiach Tmidi on premises all the time. The Kosher certification on the wall at the restaurant (by Rabbi Steinberg), clearly states that the establishment is “frequently monitored” by a mashgiach. That means: not all the time. and certainly not on Shabbat. Glatt? I think Not.
Thanks Eli! Does anyone else have any more info?
There are severasl establishments under the hechsher of Rabbi Steinberg. BTW, Rabbi Moshe Feinstein allowed kosher restaurants to be open on Shabbos if they sold the restaurant to a goy. This was a common practice up to the 1970s. Before 1966 there were no glatt kosher restaurants, only kosher restaurants. Rabbi Steinberg relies on many leniencies by Rav Moshe Feinstein and Rav Feinstein is certainly reliable. The Frum world has gotten too religious and more observant than our gedolim.
Chickpea is a vegetarian restaurant and is certainly not glatt kosher. Glatt refers to cattle, oxen, sheep and goats.
Are Rabbi Steinberg's establishments being sold to goys on Shabbat?
Glatt only refers to cows and steers. All other animals must be Glatt to be Kosher. Bigkhuna@aol.com
Eli,
“Are Rabbi Steinberg’s establishments being sold to goys on Shabbat?”
Israel Steinberg gives many restaurants in Queens and in Brooklyn. primarily to jews that are not shommer shabbos that are not following basic rules of kashrut in the kitchen makes me wonder what could they do in the back of there kitchens, please stay away from his hehshor it is not reliable and many of his restaurants claim “Glatt Kosher” even tough on his plaster it stated star K.
i know rabbi steinberg for the past 50 years he is a musmach from YTV one of the best tamidim frim that yeshiva he has been involved in the community to help as many people as possible many people owe their thanks to him he is abig talmud chuchum and knows what he is doing if u are lookinf for loshen hora u better sit down a learn a blat gimara and if you are a am haoretz better say tehillim
shame on you
There are many issues here and it is not whether a person is learned or not. If one keeps a standard (common in the orthodox community) that requires meat to be under the supervision of an broadly accepted hechsher (ie, not Triangle K) regardless of whether it is in fact kosher, whether one requires that a meat establishment have a mashgiach tamid, whether the restaurant may serve kosher and non-kosher products, whether a Jewish-owned establishment may be open on Shabbat without selling it, whether the person giving the hechsher is doing so as a primary job, or a sideline to a government full-time position, whether it is misleading to suggest that this is a Vaad HaKashrut rather than an individual — all of these are legitimate questions one could ask. I am not saying or suggesting that any establishment under this hechsher (now called the Cup-K) is not kosher. The issue is whether one can, consistent with their own standards, relay on this supervision. In general, most orthodox rabbis will advise their congregants not to do so, but whether this is reasonable or fair is a matter for discussion with those rabbis. Similar questions might be asked about IKC and Tablet-K.
I have tried to contact this rabbi with kashrut questions, but he didn't return my call.
I recently came across this Hashgacha in Boca Raton,FL at a food court at the take out place called…”Maoz Vegetarian:..It is Vegan and kosher with the Cup K letter displayed. It poses an interesting dilema, since it is not meat, nor dairy.They serve falafel, all types of salads in pita. Also open 7 days. Their web site is :www.maozusa.com Am interested in your comments….thank you
Rabbi Steinberg supervises the 92Y Tribeca Cafe, a restaurant that uses cheese without a heksher. As far as products that need kosher supervision go, cheese is pretty close to the top of the list.
(By the way — I completely agree with Bensonestop790 that we shouldn't spread loshon hara. I don't mean to demean Rabbi Steinberg, but I don't think it's fair to give a teudah to a place that's using such a blatantly non-kosher ingredient.)
Anyone who cares about kashrut should steer clear of this hechsher. I wouldn’t trust it even on a glass of water.
Before inventing his so-called “vaad”, Steinberg at various times put on his stationery “member of the Rabbinical Alliance”, and then (when the RA told him to stop using its name) “member of an orthodox rabbinic association”; “alumnus of Torah Vodaas” (until they told him to stop using their name). No other rabbi uses such descriptions, which should tell you something right there.
He also tells lies on his teudot. He openly admitted to me that something he wrote on his teudah, over his signature, was not true, and he didn’t seem to understand why I had a problem with that. He is defensive and hostile to anyone who calls him to ask about his hechsherim, as if it’s none of the callers’ business and they should just trust him.
He’s also the grinch who keeps making trouble for the Vizhnitz wedding hall in Borough Park, making false reports to the police and the city, and trying to drive the place out of business.
Where is this alleged heter of R Moshe to be found? According to the Shulchan Aruch, selling a business to a goy only works if it’s not publicly known to be a Jewish business; a kosher restaurant obviously doesn’t qualify.
What on earth are you talking about? Chickpea is not vegetarian.
To be fair, there’s no law that requires a mashgiach temidi. And there’s no reason why the meat in such a place could not be glatt. The question is can you trust the hechsher, and in this case my answer is no.
I feel confused. About three weeks ago I visited NYC (I live in Israel) I was looking for Kosher place to eat on 72nd Street. I saw Fine & Schapiro’s that loked inviting with a hechsher from Rabbi Schapiro. Only later did I see that the store had open hours on Shabbat. This is very perplexing. In Israel a resteraunt that is open on Shabbat will not recieve a hechsher unless it is inside a hotel
Anyway to all the readers – Shana Tova , Ktiva Zvehatima Tova